The evening of thursday, 17 September, I was privileged to spend time with the good people of the Wetenschapelijk Instituut – ChristenUnie (WI – CU), or the Scientific Institute – ChristenUnie. This is the think tank connected with the ChristenUnie political party, which currently holds three seats in the Tweede Kamer and has been part of three governing coalitions. This was less a lecture than an interview conducted by Jasper Knecht on the subject of Burgerschap zonder illusies, or Citizenship Without Illusions, my latest book.
Prior to the evening event, and shortly after supper, I met also with Marcel Koning, pastor of Mozaiek33, a large church congregation located just outside of Amersfoort, and a municipal councillor for ChristenUnie in Amersfoort. Koning will be writing a column on our conversation for Groen, the periodical of WI – CU. Here we are in one of the offices:











